So I was sent this article as “evidence” that the bible was real and that because of that, so was Christianity.

Here is the article:

http://www.therefinersfire.org/recent_prophecy.htm

Let’s quote from the article and see what it said.

“These 10 Bible prophecies were fulfilled after 1948, when Israel became an independent country for the second time in history. These prophecies foretold of modern Israel’s stunning military victories and of its transition from a desert wasteland to a prosperous nation.”

1. Israel will prevail over its enemies

Bible passage: Isaiah 41:12-14
Written: perhaps between 701-681 BC
Fulfilled: late 1900s

In Isaiah 41:12-14, the prophet said God would help Israel during times of conflict with enemies (if the people have faith in God). Isaiah said this during a time when the northern kingdom of Israel had already been conquered by the Assyrian Empire. And the southern kingdom, Judah, was about to be conquered by Babylon. (The Bible explains that Israel and Judah lost their independence because so many of the residents had turned to false religions). But, since 1948 when Israel was re-established, Israel has been attacked by much-larger countries. And Israel has prevailed in each of those attacks. This prophecy has found partial fulfillment; Christian scholars believe that a time will come when all of Israel’s enemies are destroyed.

Here is Isaiah 41:12-14….

Though you search for your enemies, you will not find them. Those who wage war against you will be as nothing at all. For I am the Lord, your God, who takes hold of your right hand and says to you, Do not fear; I will help you. Do not be afraid, O worm Jacob, O little Israel, for I myself will help you,” declares the Lord, your Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel.”

Having read that above:

This is ridiculous. Israel simply has itself allied to the strongest super powered countries and it’s army is the best trained in the world.

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2. The ruins of Israel would be rebuilt

Bible passage: Amos 9:11, 13
Written: about 750 BC
Fulfilled: late 1900s

In Amos 9:11, 13, the prophet said that God would restore the land of David. (King David ruled Israel from about 1010 BC to about 970 BC). The land of David – Israel – was conquered and destroyed by the Babylonians, Assyrians and Romans. The land has been in ruins for much of the past 2000 years. The Jews, who had been scattered throughout the world, began to return in large numbers during the past 100 years. Since then, they have been rebuilding many of Israel’s ancient cities. Amos also said there would be continuous planting and harvesting. During the past 100 years, the Jews have been using advanced farming and irrigation techniques to turn barren land into productive farmland. Today, Israel is a source of food for many countries.

Here is Amos 9:11, 13

“In that day I will restore David’s fallen tent. I will repair its broken places, restore its ruins, and build it as it used to be,” … “The days are coming,” declares the Lord, “when the reaper will be overtaken by the plowman and the planter by the one treading grapes. New wine will drip from the mountains and flow from all the hills.”

Having read the above:

Seriously? This is the Earth! People will destroy and rebuild! They’ll plant food, but mostly they’ll come to some religious land they think they have an obligation to flock to because of some silly myths.

I will also remind people that there is no evidence of David outside of the fairytale story the bible.

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3. Ezekiel prophesied prosperity for modern-day Israel

Bible passage: Ezekiel 36:11
Written: between 593-571 BC
Fulfilled: late 1900s

In Ezekiel 36:11, the prophet said that there would come a time when Israel would be more prosperous than it was in the past. The Bible describes Israel as being a prosperous nation during the time of King David and King Solomon about 3000 years ago. But, Ezekiel knew a very different Israel. In Ezekiel’s day (he lived about 2600 years ago), the northern kingdom of Israel already had been decimated by the Assyrians, and the southern kingdom (called Judah) was being destroyed by the Babylonians. In the centuries that followed these destructions, Jews rebuilt the city of Jerusalem, but their homeland was destroyed again, by the Romans, about 1900 years ago. Since then, a majority of Jews have lived in exile. But during the past 100 years, millions of Jews from around the world moved to Israel and they have been rebuilding the country once again. Today, Israel again is an independent nation, as it was in the days of King David, and it is one of the world’s most prosperous countries. In 1999, Israel had the highest per capita Gross Domestic Product of any nearby country, even though the surrounding countries have many oil resources.

Here is Ezekiel 36:11

I will increase the number of men and animals upon you, and they will be fruitful and become numerous. I will settle people on you as in the past and will make you prosper more than before. Then you will know that I am the Lord.

Having read the above:

Again, this is ridiculous. Fat man and Little boy destroyed Hiroshima and Nagasaki and they were rebuilt.

Cities get rebuilt. Especially ones that delusional people value as “holy”.

This could be any city I’m talking about.

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4. Trees again would grow in Israel

Bible passage: Isaiah 41:18-20
Written: perhaps between 701-681 BC
Fulfilled: late 1900s

In Isaiah 41:18-20, the prophet’s talk of a future restoration of Israel coincides with an occurrence in modern Israel – the construction of a vast irrigation system to improve farming. The lack of available water, including rain, is one reason why Israel had been a desolate, unproductive land during much of the past 2000 years. But, during the 1900s, when many Jews returned to their ancient homeland, they built a network of irrigation systems. And during the past century, more than 200 million trees have been planted in Israel.

Here is Isaiah 41:18-20

I will make rivers flow on barren heights, and springs within the valleys. I will turn the desert into pools of water, and the parched ground into springs. I will put in the desert the cedar and the acacia, the myrtle and the olive. I will set pines in the wasteland, the fir and the cypress together, so that people may see and know, may consider and understand, that the hand of the Lord has done this, that the Holy One of Israel has created it.

Having read the above:

It sure is amazing what HUMAN minds can accomplish if they put their heads together and think.

So human science put to good use, by not bickering about religion and actually being used is what saved the land, not magic, supernatural forces, or invisible sky beings.

Science is so amazing. Scary how many people have died in this same area, simply because of religion and the differences in religions.

The funniest thing is that people are giving the credit to religion, when it is religion’s greatest enemy “science” that helped better the land.

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5. Isaiah said Israel’s fruit would fill the world

Bible passage: Isaiah 27:6
Written: perhaps between 701-681 BC
Fulfilled: late 1900s

In Isaiah 27:6, the prophet said Israel would one day blossom and fill the world with fruit. This prophecy has been at least partially fulfilled, literally and symbolically. Today, the land of Israel, which had been barren for centuries, is a leading producer of agricultural products, exporting food to many countries. This prophecy also has been fulfilled symbolically with the worldwide spread of Christianity. Christianity, which began with Jesus in Israel, now has about 2 billion followers worldwide.

Here is Isaiah 27:6

In days to come Jacob will take root, Israel will bud and blossom and fill all the world with fruit.

Having read the above:

This is a completely unbelievable vague and general statement which just says what was obviously going to happen.

This is no different than dropping a bunch of horny little highly reproductive animals into a foreign country and making a prophecy that there’ll be an abundance of them.

What kind of prediction is saying “there will someday be lots and lots of people someday?” Think about it! What imbecile doesn’t know that humans instinctually have large families and breed quickly? This is a no brainer.

As for the “christian” part. He was talking about the “Jewish” bloodline itself, not christian religion, so that is complete nonsense.

Also, who couldn’t predict that simple farming of popular agriculture would be a common entrepreneurial business for people?

Think of me and you 3000 years ago in that area. I say to you “I’ll bet you thousands of years from now that these fruits and vegetables are everywhere and there will be a lot of farming coming outta here”.

The response from you back then would be something along the lines of “I’ll say” or “it sure will”.

It’s a no-brainer and simple common sense.

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6. Jerusalem would become the world’s most important religious site

Bible passage: Micah 4:1
Written: sometime between 750-686 BC
Fulfilled: Today

In Micah 4:1, the prophet said that the Temple mount in Jerusalem would become the focal point of the world. This prophecy has not yet been fulfilled. But, it is interesting to note that Jerusalem is, and has been for centuries, the world’s most important religious site. Christians and Jews regard the city as the world’s most important, and Christians and Jews comprise about one-third of the world’s population. No other city in the world is a religious focal point to as many people.

Here is Micah 4:1

In the last days the mountain of the Lord’s temple will be established as chief among the mountains; it will be raised above the hills, and peoples will stream to it.

Having read the above:

Gee, that sure is a common sense prediction again. Funny how one of the world’s most bloodthirsty religion’s could overtake the population and fill people with such delusion that they feel they have to flock to something like moths to a flame.

You have to wonder how many religions that got crushed by either christianity, or islam that just said the same thing about something else in their religion. Religions that don’t exist anymore.

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7. Egypt would never again rule over other nations

Bible passage: Ezekiel 29:15
Written: between 593-571 BC
Fulfilled: 1967, etc.

In Ezekiel 29:15, the prophet says that Egypt would recover from a desolation (perhaps Babylon’s attack about 2600 years ago), but that it would never again rule over other nations. Up until the time of Ezekiel, Egypt had been a world power for centuries, dominating many nations, including Israel. But for most of the past 2500 years, Egypt has been controlled by foreign powers, including the Romans, Ottomans and Europeans. Today, Egypt is an independent nation again. In 1948, 1967 and 1973, Egypt tried to dominate Israel but was unsuccessful each time, despite the fact that Egypt is 10 times larger than Israel. Since the time of Ezekiel, Egypt no longer rules over other nations.

Here is Ezekiel 29:15

It will be the lowliest of kingdoms and will never again exalt itself above the other nations. I will make it so weak that it will never again rule over the nations.

Having read the above:

So through thousands of years Egypt became a weaker country than it was and some guy predicted it? That’s not a prediction that’s a general inevitability.

Egypt has one of the worst climates in the world and is mostly desert.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_of_Egypt.

Gee I couldn’t predict there being a larger more properous city anywhere with a better climate that would out populate Egypt. This is the same as predicting Alaska will never be a super power, or Antarctica!

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8. Zechariah prophesied the Jews return to Jerusalem

Bible passage: Zechariah 8:7-8
Written: between 520 and 518 BC
Fulfilled: 1967, etc.

In Zechariah 8:7-8, the prophet said God would bring the Jews back from the east and the west to their homeland (Israel) and that they would be able to live in the city of Jerusalem again. This prophecy has been fulfilled more than once. About 2600 years ago, Babylon destroyed Jerusalem and took many Jews as captives to Babylon. But many Jews later returned from Babylon. The Jews rebuilt Jerusalem but the city was destroyed about 1900 years ago by the Romans. The Romans killed more than 1 million Jews and forced many more into exile. The Jews did not have control of Jerusalem again until 1967 when the Jews recaptured the city during the Six Day War.

Here is Zechariah 8:7-8

This is what the Lord Almighty says: “I will save my people from the countries of the east and the west. I will bring them back to live in Jerusalem; they will be my people, and I will be faithful and righteous to them as their God.”

Having read the above:

AGAIN, how is it far fetched to think that this is pretty vague and too general to be anything more than a common sense prediction?

If Jerusalem is such a superstitious place for so many people, who wouldn’t write that it would draw people like flies to excrement.

If Jerusalem got bombed and destroyed tomorrow, it would be fixed, rebuilt and repopulated within 50 years, just like Hiroshima and Nagasaki were.

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9. Israel’s deserts will become like the Garden of Eden

Bible passage: Isaiah 51:3
Written: perhaps between 701-681 BC
Fulfilled: Being fulfilled now

In Isaiah 51:3, the prophet said that God will restore Israel and make it a paradise, like the garden of Eden. This foreshadows what is currently happening in Israel. The Jews have been irrigating, cultivating and reconditioning the land during much of the 1900s. Many of the country’s swamps, which had been infested with malaria, have been converted into farmland. And water from the Sea of Galilee has been channeled through portions of the deserts, allowing some of the deserts to bloom. Much work remains, but parts of Israel are blooming again. Although it was described as a wasteland as recently as the late 1800s, Israel is now a food source for many countries. And at least 200 million of trees have been planted there during the past century.

Here is Isaiah 51:3

The Lord will surely comfort Zion and will look with compassion on all her ruins; he will make her deserts like Eden, her wastelands like the garden of the Lord. Joy and gladness will be found in her, thanksgiving and the sound of singing.

Having read the above:

Again, it is HUMANS who are doing this, not gods. It is humans using SCIENCE the enemy of religion to make things better, like fixing the land.

Amazing what can be accomplished if HUMANS put their heads together to accomplish things.

Amazing what can be accomplished without religion, religious wars and religious fighting. It just goes to shows you how the world is better off being secular humanists.

The happiest countries in the world are in fact secular.

http://www.city-data.com/forum/religion-spirituality/1571809-non-religius-countries-do-much-better.html

It’s only a matter of time before people smarten up!

http://m.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-human-beast/201107/why-atheism-will-replace-religion-new-evidence

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10. Isaiah foretold of the worldwide return of Jews to Israel

Bible passage: Isaiah 43:5-6
Written: perhaps between 701-681 BC
Fulfilled: late 1900s

In Isaiah 43:5-6, the prophet Isaiah said that the Jews would return to their homeland from the east, the west, the north and the south. Isaiah lived about 2700 years ago. At that time, the Assyrians had forced many Jews in the northern kingdom of Israel into exile. Those Jews were taken to other areas in the Middle East. Then, about 1900 years ago, the Romans destroyed the city of Jerusalem and killed and exiled hundreds of thousands of Jews. Since then, the Jews have been scattered to virtually every country in the world. But, during the past century, millions of Jews have returned to Israel, from the east, the west, the north and the south.

From the east: Many Jews living in the Middle East moved to Israel by the early 1900s.

From the west: During mid-1900s, hundreds of thousands of Jews living in the West (Europe and the United States) began moving to Israel.

From the north: The former Soviet Union (Russia) is north of Israel. It refused to allow its Jewish residents to move to Israel. But, after years of pressure from other countries, Russia finally began to allow Jews to return to Israel during the 1980s. So far, hundreds of thousands of Russian Jews have moved to Israel.

From the south: Ethiopia, which is south of Israel, also refused to allow its Jews to return to Israel. But, in 1985, Israel struck a deal with Ethiopia’s communist government to allow the Jews of Ethiopia to move to Israel. On the weekend of May 25, 1991, 14,500 Ethiopian Jews were airlifted to Israel.

Isaiah’s prophecy was also correct in saying that the north (Russia) and the south (Ethiopia) would have to be persuaded to give up their Jews. Many countries pressured Russia for years before it began to allow its Jews to leave. And Ethiopia had to be paid a ransom to allow its Jews to leave.

Isaiah’s prophecy was also correct in saying that the Jews would return “from the ends of the earth,” and Isaiah said that many centuries before the Jews had been scattered to the ends of the earth. During the past 100 years, Jews living as far east as China, as far west as the West Coast of the United States, as far north as Scandinavia, and as far south as South Africa, have moved to Israel.

Here is Isaiah 43:5-6

“Do not be afraid, for I am with you; I will bring your children from the east and gather you from the west. I will say to the north, `Give them up!’ and to the south, `Do not hold them back.’ Bring my sons from afar and my daughters from the ends of the Earth.

Having read the above:

It stuns my mind how anyone could delude themselves into getting all that from those 2 silly little verses.

Of course the Jews are going to flock to their homeland, they’re brainwashed and deluded to believe it’s their sacred homeland.

AGAIN if the whole city got nuked by one of the countless countries that hate it so much, then it would get rebuilt and repopulated in no time, by jews who gotta return to their homeland and repopulate it.

The only way that wouldn’t happen is if the world turned non-religious which it is doing. The world is slowly becoming mostly Atheist and reason is prevailing.

http://m.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-human-beast/201204/atheism-defeat-religion-2038

Also I wanted to show a list of how many bible prophecies never did get fulfilled:

http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/proph/long.html

Yep, the bible sure is bad at making predictions. Over 200 of them that never happened.

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