I had to comment on several things I’ve heard Atheists say lately that just make me think that the world is truly doomed! I mean it’s bad enough that there are religions destroying the world as it is!
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Now it seems we have an additional problem ON TOP of what religion is doing to mess things up, but we have ATHEISTS who are attacking the arguments of the biggest points and most important arguments there is!
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It’s become painful to accept that people are actually saying these things AGAINST these points! I mean I really can’t believe what I’m hearing and reading!
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Let’s go over a few that have been making me completely mental with atomic facepalms lately:
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These are some of the statements, or arguments that these Atheists whose farts don’t stink seem to be attacking:
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1) Religion IS in fact made to control people, manipulate people and con people.
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– If you are an Atheist and honestly don’t think this is true, or attack people for saying this then you truly are what’s wrong with this world.
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– These are not good things that religion was created for (manipulating and conning) and especially not good that they’re going on today and they need to be addressed and pointed out.
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– As for the CONTROL part, how is the control using issue of religion relevant to these 10 happiest countries in the world that are mostly non-religious?

http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/20/travel/happiest-countries-to-visit/index.html?c=&page=0

They’re getting by just fine not being controlled by religion.

– These 3 issues (about religion controlling, manipulating and conning) NEED to be pointed out to religious people and they MUST be told these things to make them THINK!

– If you aren’t confronting religious people with these sort of things and making them think, then you aren’t helping them.

– People aren’t becoming Atheists by not thinking.

– Religious people are becoming at least deists (which is still an improvement) and agnostics by making them THINK and then Atheists later on their own.
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2) So what if Atheist organizations don’t have to pay taxes either? TAX THE STUPID CHURCHES AND RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATIONS!

– This complaint that I hear (Atheists complaining about other Atheists who say to “tax the churches”) is truly beyond belief to hear that Atheists are actually complaining about this because Atheist organizations also don’t have to pay taxes.

– There’s a big difference from religions and churches compared to Atheist organizations who only exist BECAUSE they are there to speakout against religious atrocities and STAND UP for Atheists rights!

– I’m sure that Richard Dawkins and David Silverman’s organizations would be more than happy to do the following:

a) Pay taxes if it meant that the 71 BILLION dollars a year that churches weren’t paying in taxes went towards things like feeding people, sponsoring the space program, education and handling disasters! Not to mention how much it would discourage religious scamming.

b) Not even being part of an Atheist organization in the first place, but they feel that it’s completely necessary because of all the unsurpassed bigotry, insanity and human rights violations.

(I know there’s a lot better things I’d rather be doing than speaking out against religion, but I can’t because of how harmful and destructive it is).

– So yeah, Atheists who waste their breath being imbeciles and saying “we should stop complaining about the churches not paying taxes” for whatever reason, can really go shove your heads up Eric Hovind’s rear end!

Also, Pat Robertson’s, Joel Osteen’s, Ray Comfort’s, Ken Ham’s and Joyce Meyer’s rear ends too!

– I can’t be nice about this. Atheists who say this really are IDIOTS!
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3) I’m sick of all these Atheists who attack OTHER Atheists for saying in one way, or another that “religious people are stupid”.

– Oh give it a rest will you.

– Everyone knows some brilliant people who are religious, but we are simply saying they are BEING stupid TO BE RELIGIOUS!

– I was a super religious christian once and I was also a bunch of other stupid things too at one time, one of which was a homophobe. I really was being a stupid person but I evolved, educated myself and became a smarter person.

– Being religious in today’s modern society means you ARE being stupid and there is no excuse, or rationalization how you aren’t being stupid.
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– It’s NOT SAYING that the person is a complete and total idiot on every level (unless the person actually is) it’s just saying that the person is being stupid for that ONE REASON.
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– Let’s make a list of examples that brilliant people can do that qualify them as BEING STUPID, but not as “stupid people”.
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} Thinking they can run a red light because they are in a hurry, but end up hitting a car
} Using bleach on their clothes instead of fabric softner
} Being caught up in the moment and not using a condom and contracting a disease
} Making crystal Meth to pay for your cancer treatment (Breaking Bad was awesome and Walter White was brilliant, but making meth was a stupid thing to do).
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– When I was religious I was being stupid and doing a stupid thing,
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– By thinking and examining simple evidence (which was smart) I became an agnostic, then an Atheist and stopped being stupid in THAT sense.
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– Mocking religion as being “stupid” is a good thing and forces people to face facts and think.
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– Mocking religion and implying stupidity towards it, also discourages other people from treating this sort of thinking as acceptable and normal in society and if the Atheists complaining about the mocking don’t see how this stupidity of religion shouldn’t be mocked and discouraged, then THEY are the ones being stupid.
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– Religious thinking should never be considered normal, or rational because it isn’t.
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– Being child indoctrinated, or brainwashed through some sort of emotional vulnerability that has been taken advantage of, is not a smart, or normal thing to not realize.
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– It’s no different than someone who is an idiot for smoking and not even attempting to quit, because they have justified the benefits of smoking and ignored health concerns, but has an IQ of 150.
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– Very similar to Atheists who say that religion belief isn’t a stupid thing to believe and who say that calling religion “stupid” is wrong. They are being stupid.
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4) Religion IS brainwashing in one form, or another.
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– Some Atheists attack other Atheists for saying this which is ridiculous and they really aren’t getting the 4 biggest reasons for telling religious people they are brainwashed:
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a) IT’S TRUE (that all religion is nothing more than brainwashing in one form, or another).
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b) The religious people need to be told, so that they can start thinking about it and realize that brainwashing is the only way someone could believe these ridiculous things which make no sense and don’t have any evidence.
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c) That if religious people actually knew they were brainwashed then they wouldn’t be religious.
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d) How else can religious people know they are brainwashed unless we tell them and show them and make them think?
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5) Religious people ARE religious because they fear death!
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– How in any way, shape, or form is this false?
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– The fear and the brainwashing go hand and hand.
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a) They have been brainwashed to fear gods.
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b) They have been brainwashed to fear devils.
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c) They have been brainwashed to fear “hells” and torturous afterlives.
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d) They have been brainwashed to not be able to mentally deal with a finite existence and to fear it.
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e) They have been brainwashed to think they will see dead loved ones again and fear not being able to.
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– It’s a valid argument and it’s also the truth.
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– These fear issues of brainwashing are something that religious people need to be told in order for them to think about it.
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– Being encouraged to think about something helpful and important is not a bad thing.
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– Being made to think about something that is THE TRUTH and involves thinking something that is overall harmful to the world, is even more helpful and important.
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– Absolutely remind religious people that:
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a) Their religion has conditioned them to fear.
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Or
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b) They conditioned themselves to be religious BECAUSE of fear.
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6) Religion does NOT serve society well in any way shape, or form and Atheists really have got to stop telling other Atheists it does. Imbeciles.
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– Religious people hear them saying this and it justifies their religion’s delusion, which will only strengthen their faith.
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– Again reminding people that the 10 happiest countries in the world are mostly non-religious.
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– The following things are a reminder of why religion does not serve society well:
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} Religion causes wars.
} Religion oppresses women.
} Religion oppresses gays.
} Religion is against science.
} Religion is the cause of painful torture and human rights violations.
} Religion is the the cause of child marriage which often involves child rape.
} Religion is the cause of honor killings.
} Religion causes people to miss out on the world and waste their lives and all their time for nothing.
} Religion causes people to NOT have inner strength and self belief.
} Religion causes in masses what only lunatics and psychopaths could think and do alone.
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If the Atheists say “religion gives people comfort”.
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Remember that:
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– Religion is a comforting lie that is an agent for spreading itself and all the factors that are harmful about it.
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– Rather than eventually getting over something traumatic and painful, people will then dedicate their lives and infect others with the harm of religion.
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– If the person never traumatically recovers from something and doesn’t deceive themselves with a comforting lie, as cold-hearted as it may sound:
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a) The harm to society and the world is much worse off if they do deceive themselves.
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b) The person at least didn’t embarass themselves without realizing it by living a lie in order to comfort their mind. (Living a lie that is based on a scam and a nonsensical story that makes them believe ridiculous and harmful things)

c) The world isn’t perfect, but animals don’t turn to religion and they do just fine by not spreading bigotry, homophobia, denial of science, blasphemy laws, justification for murder and overall illogical things to please an imaginary being.
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7) We ARE all born Atheists and it isn’t saying something that isn’t important, or isn’t true when we say it either.
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– Whoever says “it isn’t important” is too stupid to see why the statement IS important, or they never even gave it any thought.
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The reasons that the statement “we’re all born Atheists” is important:
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– Children are born knowing NOTHING and instinctively evolve and adapt to learn the most productive and useful knowledge available that is provided to them.
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– If children are merely raised to know reality and science, then they are learning something that is universal and that is PROVEN to be TRUE through science and evidence.
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– If children are raised to believe one of many religions, they are being mentally conditioned to deny anything else (reality, or other religions) which is unfair to the child because:
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a) The child doesn’t have a choice of being forced to be the unknowing SLAVE of a lie.
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b) The child never asked to be programmed to deny reality.
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c) If religion can cause children to willingly be suicide bombers, then there really are no limits to the evil and perversion that you can program a child to do with it.
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– Unlike Atheism which provides the following thinking as a result of simply being an Atheist:
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} Knowledge and acceptance of science.
} The focus on this one world and one life.
} Morals trained of an evolved society, not those of a bigotted, hateful and murderous imaginary being and religion.
} Figuring out on their own what is true and what isn’t, by using evidence they can see and observe.
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8) Definitely keep telling religious people WHY they are religious. THEY NEED TO HEAR IT!
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– Atheists who again are discouraging confronting religious people about anything, really are what is wrong with this world.
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– This isn’t at all the same as what religious people do when telling Atheists why they don’t believe in god, or religions for the following reasons:
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} It’s deflection when religious people do it.
} They are simply saying and mimicking things that apologists and religious role models have said to say to Atheists.
} They have been convinced and brainwashed that these arguments are true and are actual arguments when they really aren’t anything but time wasters.
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} THEY HAVE NO GOOD ACTUAL ARGUMENTS THEY CAN THROW AT US.
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Like these examples they use:
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– “You don’t want to admit that there is a God because you don’t want to submit to him”
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a) Atheists know if there were a god it would have done things completely differently and that there is nothing logical, credible, or factual about ANY religion.
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b) Atheists know that if a god existed, even though we have no belief in God, or gods, that there is no reason to think that it, or they would be the gods of any religion.
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c) Atheists know that the only reason religions and beliefs in gods exist and are believed is because of the following
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} Child indoctrination.
} Brainwashing by being caught when emotionally and mentally vulnerable.
} Because people didn’t know any better when religions were created.
} Hearsay (the telephone game).
} Political control reasons.
} Lying and deception of religious leaders and apologists.
} Being deceived by people that religious victims trusted and look up to, but who are themselves victims.
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And this one:
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“Atheists just want to continue sinning”
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a) If there are no logical reasons, or evidence to believe in gods that belong to any religion, then of course there is no reason that a “sin” even exists.
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b) Even though Atheists have no beliefs in gods, if hypothetically God, or gods existed and are omnipotent, all knowing and all powerful:
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} Why would they even care what anyone did? They wouldn’t because there is no logical reason they would.
} There is no reason that a “god” would even care if someone were gay, or had a foreskin, or not.
} There is no evidence that any religion for which a different god consists, is real.
} There is strong evidence that all religions are NOT real.
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9) Religion is NOT supposed to be admired because it is the cause of “charity”. This drives me CRAZY hearing this!
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– How about simply crediting CHARTIES? With no religious name attached?
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– How about acknowledging that many secular charities exist?
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http://www.freethoughtorganizers.org/secular-charities/
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– How about realizing that people everywhere are willing to do good things and just because a charity has a religious name attached to it is irrelevant.
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– How about we realize that if no religious affiliated charities existed that there would be a non-religion charity, or just “CHARITY” in it’s place anyway.
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– How about we realize that some religious charities are actually hate groups, or have had bigotted ties to discrimination and prejudice?
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The Salvation Army has a history despite how hard they try to cover it up:
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http://www.thewire.com/global/2012/06/salvation-army-official-gays-deserve-death/53885/
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Of course not every religious affiliated charity has evidence of bigotry and discrimination, but it’s no coincidence that there aren’t any secular hate charity stories out there. Just stories of secular charities sticking up for human rights.
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Let’s also credit the Gates foundation and it’s group of billionaires which is headed by a group of non-religious people and donate billions of dollars a year to charities.
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/meghancasserly/2012/12/11/bill-and-melinda-gates-propose-the-five-most-impactful-charities-for-holiday-giving/
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1247067/Bill-Gates-makes-worlds-largest-charitable-6bn-vaccines-poor-children.html
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– It’s not even that religious people are more charitable, when studies show that non-religious people actually are more charitable than religious people
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http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2013/11/28/are-religious-people-really-more-generous-than-atheists-a-new-study-puts-that-myth-to-rest/
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– How about remembering that churches are corrupt and the money being donated is just being used to make evangelists rich. Evangelists who are morons, anti-science, scam artists and bigotted.
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Brilliant.
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10) Point out as many mistakes in the bible and contradictions, lies and nonsense as you possibly can and DO attribute it to ALL CHRISTIANS.
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– Atheists who say not to do this are as out of touch with reality as religious poisonous snake handlers who get poisoned and die.
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– Why wouldn’t we show people we are trying to reason with HOW and WHY they are wrong? This is a whole new level of stupid to say “not to”.
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– All religions and sects might be different, but they all have their harmful flaws.
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– All religions feed off each other and fuel their delusions, so any Atheist who is saying to not dissect and point out flaws is even stupider than people who think that Satan, or God created fossils to see how much we love Allah, or Jesus and to test us.
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11) People don’t naturally need religion to have a community and belong to something.
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– To say that religion is practical for giving people friends and a group to belong, is absurd.
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– Religion still does more harm to the world than good.
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– That might be something that religious people are indoctrinated into and cling to for purpose and support, but the Charles Manson family was pretty tight and so was the Branch Dividian and I don’t hear anybody saying “it would have been a bad idea for their members to have reached out and found some new friends”.
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– People leave their churches, or are disfellowshipped all the time. They move on, they make new friends, or they adjust.
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– Life is change and if you’re too stupid to see the value and importance of people adjusting their life to a better way of thinking and adjusting to a new community, then I’m truly embarrased that you represent my side and you truly are what’s wrong with this world.
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12) DEFINITELY continue to say that “religion is a virus”.
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– Never stop saying it, despite what some incredible stupid and naive Atheists say.
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– It’s a social parasite that spreads and infects the minds of people who are infected by it.
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– Religion fits all the definitions of what a virus, or computer virus does:
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} It spreads.
} It infects.
} It’s contagious
} It destroys the mind
} It’s harmful.
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As Richard Dawkins agrees about religion being like a computer virus:
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?list=UUY7dD6waquGnKTZSumPMTlQ&feature=c4-overview&v=3Og08XbGjg4
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– Not only is religion a virus, but Atheism is the cure.
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– Just like people who are showing symptoms of a virus, or disease and they don’t know it, they need to be shown they are infected and shown they are sick.
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– If you care about people you’ll tell them.
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– If you wish to make them better, you will give them their “reality medication” even if they don’t react well with the treatment,
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– Again, Atheists who are saying not to say this thing about religion being a virus are just as helpful as faith healers are at curing ebola plague.
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13) Religion is definitely a mental illness and any Atheist who says otherwise is not only in denial, but part of the problem.
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– Religion causes people to believe things without evidence, which turns into other delusions outside of just their religion when their religion becomes the major part of their life and most important part.
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– Religions impair thinking like a mental illness does.
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– Religions cause people to behave irrationally like a mental illness does.
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– Religions cause people to hear voices and think things that aren’t real.
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– George W. Bush claimed to talk to God every day and TOLD Bush to invade Iraq (in between talking to Ted Haggard when Ted wasn’t having sex with male prostitutes in public bathrooms).
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– Since when is having a 2 way conversation with invisible beings not a form of mental illness?
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– Several other examples, but I think I’ve said enough.
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For more on this though do checkout my article “Religion Is A Virus Disease And Mental Illness”
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https://thebuybulljournal.wordpress.com/2014/02/24/religion-is-a-virus-disease-and-mental-illness/
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Finally:
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I wrote this article to address things I have seen on Twitter lately that started off making me facepalm when I seen, or heard them, but then eventually made me start banging my head against the wall in anger.
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When I joined Twitter over 4 years ago, I became part of an Atheist community that was proud and focused on attacking the problems of religion and speaking out against it.
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Now Twitter has been filled with a bunch of spineless know it all philosopher Atheists who basically make it their mission to bully other Atheists who are vocal and speak the truth. These clueless bunch of losers have become more of a problem than religion itself and spend more time nit picking and belittling than attacking real issues and real problems.
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The truth is that you can never be silent and never hold back and people who tell you to do so, are sadly religion’s greatest defenders and greatest weapons against “reason” by telling you “standing up for reason is unreasonable”.

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